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GA 2005 Summary

Hello all,

Brian has already reported to some of you (the Centre’s Exec), but I feel that I should report as well.

At any National Council meeting or Annual Meeting at a GA, the vast majority of the motions are routine, non-controversial, housekeeping matters. The motions that generated strong feelings and lengthy debate were all related to trying to get the RASC’s finances in order since we are expecting a $36,000 deficit this year. These issues dominated discussion at the 1st National Council meeting on Friday, at the Annual Meeting on Sunday morning, and at the 2nd National Council meeting on Sunday afternoon.

At the Annual Meeting the proposal to remove the general membership’s right to vote on and ratify fee increases was defeated soundly. Since it would have had to pass with a two-thirds majority, its defeat was widely expected. I voted to retain your current right to vote on fee increases. The related measure to change the current 60/40 split between national and the centres (the centre receives 40 percent of your membership fee) also failed to pass since it was linked to the first matter within the same motion.

In contrast, the actual membership fee increase of $5 per annum was not controversial and passed in less than a minute with little or no debate by a huge margin. I voted for the fee increase since the Society is in dire financial straights.

There is a proposal afoot to change the JOURNAL to an electronic downloadable publication, which would save the RASC some $55,000 per year, thus more than eliminating the annual deficit. Discussion during the three meetings centred on how to legally do this since a large body of opinion feels that the Bylaws have made a paper copy of the JOURNAL a right of membership. Finally, at the end of the 2nd National Council meeting, this motion was passed:

MOTION 05304
It was moved by Dave Lane, seconded by James Edgar, that references to the words “the Journal” in Bylaw #1 refers to a publication of the RASC published in electronic format and specifically it does not refer to a printed version of the same publication that may be made available by subscription to members, non-members, or institutions.

MOTION 05304 was CARRIED (I voted in favour in a close 19-17 vote. Some members of National Council, including Past-Pres Rajiv Gupta, were very upset that this controversial motion carried. As a member of the national Finance committee, I feel that this course is necessary, although regrettable.)

Motion 05306
Dave Lane, seconded by James Edgar, that the combination Printed and Electronically-Delivered Journal proposal be implemented by the Publications and IT Committees as proposed in the document dated 2005-05-04, except the changes to the Society’s by-laws indicated in Appendix 2. The implementation details, subscription pricing, and phase-in details shall be approved by the Executive Committee.

Some debate ensued.

Motion 05307
It was moved by Brian Kelso, seconded by Alan Whitman, that Motion 05306 be postponed until the National Council meeting in October 2005.

Motion 05307 was CARRIED

So the result of all of this appears to be that we can proceed with implementing an electronic JOURNAL if motion 05306 passes at the October 29th meeting of National Council. This gives every centre including ours time to debate the issue thoroughly in the meantime. Note that the proposal would make a paper copy of the JOURNAL available by subscription, probably in the $15 to $20 range. [Although I note that Jay Anderson, the incoming editor of the JOURNAL, said make it one or the other, not both.] None of this should be seen as an attack on the Journal’s worth — it is simply a reality that the RASC’s finances are heading downhill rapidly and something drastic has to be done. The obvious target is the JOURNAL since the national membership survey done a couple of years ago found that the membership values the Observer’s Handbook and Sky News more than they do the JOURNAL.

I was re-elected to the national Finance committee and was also elected to the Observing committee. My Finance committee duties certainly colour my approach to these matters. Brian Battersby agreed to sit on the national Education committee.

If you have any questions, please email ( or phone me. (250) 497-6759


Alan Whitman
PG Centre Alternate National Representative


7365 Tedford Road
Prince George, BC
V2N 6S2

General Meeting Minutes

Date: May 25, 2005
Location: PGAO 7365 Tedford Road

Chairperson: Brian Battersby
Recording Secretary: Glen Harris
Executives Present: Brian, Glen, Wayne, Gil
Members Present: Jim Arnold, Greg, Art, Bob Klick, Bob Nelson, Glenn Zulkhe
Guests Present: Dr. Patrick Mann, Mike Kohut

Meeting called to order at 9:10 p.m.

1. Previous Meeting Minutes
No minutes were circulated.

2. Treasurer’s Report:
As of May 25, 2005
Club Account Balance $3380.39 Gaming Account Balance $17388.71

3. Correspondence
Hugh Kennedy’s address change, City of Prince George application for 2005/06 Fall/Winter Leisure and Education Guide

4. Old Business
Brian summarized the business end of the General Assembly. See Alan Whitman’s summary attached (GA 2005 Summary)

5. New Business
The polar alignment scope will be ordered for the CG5 mount.

6. Upcoming Events
May 27 Tour 9:00 pm 25 kids
May 28 Tour 9:00 pm 80 Girl Guides
June 4 ~5:30 pm Viewing season windup potluck barbeque

6. Upcoming Events (continued)
Open Houses Member’s Nights
May 27 Brian May 28 Glen

Meeting adjourned at 9:40 pm

7. Presentation
UNBC’s Dr. Patrick Mann prior to the business meeting presented a lecture on Computational Physics.

May 2005


Photographer: Doug Wayland
Object: Horesehead Nebula
Details: 35mm Canon FTb at prime focus of LX10 with f6.3 focal reducer.It was a manually guided 40 minute exposure on Kodak Elitechrome 200. Taken Feb 26, 2005